In 2017, I spoke to Vint Cerf at the IEEE Tech For Humanity conference. Cerf and Bob Kahn developed TCP/IP, the communications protocol that lies at the heart of the Internet. Without that, nothing works, hence why many call Cerf and Kahn the fathers of the Internet.

When he joined Google, after he was talked out of working as an Archduke, he was given the title of Chief Internet Evangelist. We talked about the design of the Internet and how its open nature was achieved, reaching the last billion users and using the Internet for education.

It was a fascinating interview thinking about what was on the horizon. Now, more than seven years later, how accurate was that vision, and how far do we still have to go?

• Recorded March 2017 at IEEE Tech For Humanities.
• Originally published on the SXSW Baby blog.

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